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“The city’s lost about $45,000,and if we had a marshal, we would have collected it,” Is there any other money lost or missing?

Seems to be several issues of money in Magnolia.

If the warrants are still valid then Magnolia really hasn't lost anything, they just need someone to do the job of collecting. Exposed and citizen cane are still playing in the dirt trying to dig up something they can use. Doesn't seem to be working for them.

No shovel here. Just commenting on articles. Isn't that what blogs are for?

Just the facts Vivian, ask Mr. Kelley if he can tells us, what was the Judges money used for that was taken out of his technology fund that has not been paid back?

You're doing more than commenting on this article. Still trying to get dirt on Mr. Kelley. Get a bigger shovel, still don't see it working

Ryan Kelley's job as City Administratoris to carry out the decisions that City Council makes. If funds are moved ffor any reason it is city councils decision.

Vivian agian you have no clue....those council meeting must last for days to vote on all the day to day decision that ryan needs to run the city.. Ryan has the authority to make decision with out council thats why they hired a administrator

It’s accountability to us the tax payers not dirt, what is Kelley’s job? To oversee the day to day operations of the City and see that the money is being spent the way it was intended to be spent and to be knowledgeable of what’s going out and what’s coming in. You have to know what your balance is at the end of the day. The audit clearly shows no one has a clue.

Is Kelley not to make sure that the City stays within it’s budget? That’s why the council hired a city manager (at $80,000.00 plus). If the City is having problems Kelley is to bring the issues to the entire council, the council then makes a decision on the facts Kelley presented and then if need be they amend the budget.

If the budget is being amended, who is it being amended by, I have not seen anything on an agenda, or any minutes to show an amendment to the budget has been made. So who is making the decisions? Who is over spending and in what area, how can you keep up with where the money is going or coming from or what area it is to be paid back.

Show me the minutes where the council voted to use the Judge’s Technology fund money and what it was used for. You cannot continue to rob Peter to pay Paul and I guess I would need a bigger shovel to cover up these questions with whatever Kelley and the Council are trying to shovel. This is not rocket science it’s just your basic day to day operations. Something smells and I believe they are not shoveling dirt. The more that is not explained the bigger the hole becomes.

How do you know he's not bringing these issues to city council perhaps in the exeutive meetings which are not available to the public. Can you prove this, do something about it, make it better? If not your not being effective. Still would like to see you do something positive for the community. Something that would make a difference and make Magnolia a better place than it already is. Don't think you can or you would have already done it.

NOTHING ON THE AGENDA are we now doing all the peoples business behind closed doors so its NOT available to the public? We are working on proving many things and are trying to make it better. I have been there done that got the tee shirt to prove it I have been here a lot longer than two years and I just don't drive through. What did Kelley do for the 15 months he left out on his resume, since Kelley will not tell us maybe he will tell you.

As someone pointed out quite well, "Apparently Vivian doesn't understand the law. If an item is not listed on the agenda for discussion in Executive Session then it is not to be discussed. If discussions take place about subject matters not listed on the agenda then the law has been broken. Therefore, the public should believe that 'these issues' have not been brought to city council because they were not listed on the agenda."

State laws govern what can and cannot be discussed in Executive Session and it is quite clear if the city attorney let something like that happen he is not doing his job. I doubt that Leonard would let that happen.

Well said Jo A

Is anyone doing their jobs?

I've read thru everything written and no one has said Apparently Vivian doesn't understand the law. And I didn't make it an absolute thing that happened, I just suggested it. Without the docs that you have I couldn't make an absolute statement. As for exposed, good for you, you have a t shirt!! I've been here longer than two years too. And I do more than drive thru. Remember the work, shop, send my kids to school here conversation we've already had? What are you trying to prove, that your twisted facts are better than reality? That's not helping.

Jo A. GOOD JOB some only believe what they are told by the Special people when trying to cover up issues. I explained that nothing is on the agenda. So all the excuses don't hold water, not one ounce. No twisting FACTS just the TRUTH!

It seems to me that if you were the experts you'd like everyone to beieve you are, you would have accomplished your goals by now. Since you haven't maybe you're not quite as good as you think you are.

"Make haste slowly" and it will all come together.

Do you make this stuff up as you go along? Nope, still twisting facts. Exposed, until you step up and reveal yourself, no wait don't do that. Until you step up and tell everyone who you are, you have no credibility here. I've seen cowards who are braver than you.

and once again, you've avoided the fact that I've pointed out a falsehood to you. You just seem to skim over your discrepancies. Makes me wonder how many other discrepancies you have that you are avoiding

Just the facts where was Kelley for the 15 months he left out of his resume? Credibility, where is Kelley's what discrepancies is he avoiding to leave out 15 months on his resume. Just the FACTS

well vivian again have no clue about the law or how the goverment works. you keep saying their no credibillity but there is that why there are people like us who discuss the issues and we are changing things daily you are clueless and probably hold kelleys hand and tell him it is ok Kelley, I am here only as a friend Those mean people can not hurt you. I have no clue if you can do your job or not becuase I an just a friend. well Vivian vivian vivian, you are a smart person, keep fighting for the feeling of the powers to be. If you think that the fact are twisted her then why do you not prove that. Your alll about proving it. Then how about you step up and do something since you have an inside sorce that gives you free open records and request for all the documents and prove to us disgruntal citizens that need to just move out and are less than cowards as you put it. Put your money were your mouth is. The information that we have discussed is all on open record and reported by the media, yet you say it is twisted. So does that mean the rayn and the council has twisted the documents, but screwed up and made them look bad.. Maybe an oversite or maybe, just maybe Drake did some tampering with a government documnet, yeah that it she not here to defend herself so we can blame her for it.

you got it vivian, kstar has the right smart person working for them. and I do not need to confuse the issue with who I am, It is all about facts look it up its all there in black and white you just need to read and I am sure that the 5 year old that we have writing are blogg have figured out the issue by now when are you.

Hmmmm....he was Lt. in Corpus and left there.....retired or what ? Did he get terminated or resign ? From a Lt. on a police force to a City Marshal in a failing and deteroriating town like Mongolia is quite a step down and makes a lot of us wonder why he took that job.

Does anybody know when the clueless Governor is going to call for a special investigation of Magnolia ? We need a full outside agency real close look into the fiscal and operational aspects of the City of Magnolia. We need to determine if any other criminal laws were broken by elected or law enforcement officials and / or personnel. That will either clear the air of the fishy smell or put some more folks in jail.

You have gone beyond "discussing the issues" to slander. You've been going on for weeks with this Magnolia bashing and have gotten nowhere. You've gone from calling me smart to insinuating that I am not so smart. Just like there are no inside sources handing me anything, there are no major problems as you havge indicated in Magnolia. (You're going to be embarra*sed and be laughed at quite abit when you do find out what I learened from City Hall) I still agree that you and this news paper are twisted. By the way, I'm checking with a lawyer to see if you can keep bringing up my place of employment and insinuating that they have a "right smart person working for them" This blog is about city issues, not my place of employment. I will hold the paper responsible until they revel who you are. Your tactics on destroying me because you're mad that I'm standing up to you are a serious exdample of the way you operate. Wouldn't trust you with anything involving Magnolia. I have read everything I can get my hands are and sorry, still don't see it your way

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Thank you for that information. I do appreciate it. My name was googled to find out more about me. I don't mind who knows me as I will stand by anything said. I just don't feel like it's fair to consistently reference my place of business. If this was a fair discussion by fair and intelligent bloggers, they wouldn't refer to my place of business and the "right smart person that they've hired" that turns a disscussion amongst people from Magnolia to a personal issue. It's the attempt to harm me through my job that I'm having a problem with. The editor has already stepped in to say that this cannot get personal and we are to only discuss the issues reported in the paper. Where is he now?

well vivian, The issues are the issues and as far as your comments about slander, Slander is not anyones intend here nore is it happening. The issues that are brought in the paper is the topic. Your comments towards everyone is as hateful as you claim we are. asfar as you claim that I have a tactic to destroy your is false this is sarcasim. Consult away on an attorney my dear, Freedom of speach is a wonderful thing. I am not here to destroy your job, I just asked a valid question, you brought up the fact that the motels need to advertise more and It appears you work in the advertising department So it is an vaild question! What happened to having a discussion? Now we get angry and call lawyers lol......Really..... How is my post going to affect your job...lol...... You have insulted many of the posters and yet when you feel insulted, you threaten a lawyer?.....really....No one here is trying to destroy you nor are we mad at you for your opinion, we do believe your wrong and have a bias opinion and unwilling to look at the information that is presented or even willing to get the information yourself ... you said this "Just like there are no inside sources handing me anything, there are no major problems as you havge indicated in Magnolia". well you said it yourself Vivian that you get your information for free from the city. Hmmm no inside source? Why is it then that every other citizen has to pay for information? No Major problems in Magnolia Just the fact that the City is in the red according to the audit that the papers have reported is a major issue!
the comment that your checking on Vivian ""right smart person working for them" is sarcasim not Slander! I do have the freedom to vioce my Opinion and Sarcasim. If you or anyone else does not agree with me then fine but it is my opinion and the last time i checked I still have my freedom.

So You do not like the fact that I express my opinion, but feel that you can insult people as long as you do not feel someone disagress with you and or you feel offended, then it all has to stop. tisk tisk....So lets just move on and get back to the issue, beacuse no one care about you or where you work....... Nor do they care to destroy you.. I think that by your threat I will say nothing more to you or about your comments but I will continue to make my comments and opinions on what the city of magnolia is doing based on the information that is reported and if you do not like it then sorry missy, your going to just have to deal. I will give you what you want you will not be acknowledged, so I do not offend you any more. Good day...

There is a fine line between making personal attacks and bringing into a discussion someone's place of employment. If someone were to have the opinion that "as editor of the Tribune, Brian Walzel may have a biased opinion" on a certain topic, that is not a personal attack. Unfortunately, in the age of social networking sites, digital media and global connectedness, privacy isn't as protected as it once was. By having information about yourself anywhere online, that information becomes readily available. However, several of you have come dangerously close to making personal attacks and those will not be tolerated. We are keeping a close eye on these discussions and will ban any user we feel is in violation. Again, keep the discussion to the topic at hand.

Where have I affected your job? You can call me names all day long and I beleive you have. The comment about right smart person, is not a*sociated with any of these articles. the one you are responding to now is about the new city marshall. As a matter of reference, I have not asked either of the motels in Magnolia to advertise because of our deiscussion. I will bring this up with a lawyer he may agree with citizen cane but I will find out. As for you no longer acknowedging me, Great, I will keep responding to your blogs, lets see how long you can hold out. As for the tone of your last message, I think I got to you. Let's see who laughs last

Now back to the issues. I hope this new Marshal and Deputy Marshal the best in their job hopefully they will not fall into the corruption. But I think that I would still like some answers to the issue REPORTED by the Paper on where Ryan worked during the months that He mistakenly left off. We already know that The Mayor and Sutherland did not know about it. What about why the city is in the whole for thosands of dollars as reported in the paper, where did all those thosands of dollars that Carpenter brought in and where the profits whent that Magnolia Music festivle went that The paper report that the mayor said generated.
Accountablity is all I am asking for. If there is nothing there, then prove it. all this has been reported not made up form thin air

Do the new Marshall and deputy Marshall have the authority to find out? Probably not, so keep looking for that one person who thinks just like you.

Thank You Brian. I appreciate your honest approach to these blogs

It appears that the Marshal has the ability to collect a very large sum of money for the city. It is the right of the people to know how funds are spent within their government. It is also the right of the people to know if the people that have been elected are performing the duties they were elected to do.
Watch the news, people are questioning all levels of government these days. There is a movement in this country against corruption and lies from their government.

Thank you Citizen Cane. You have said it so well. This is truly the opinion of all the citizens.

I never said the city of Magnolia does not have a responsibility to the people that elected them and Citizen Cane beleive it or not I agree with you. It's the attacks that get personal. And yes, people are questioning government on all levels. I do watch the news and I put a kid through college to earn a political science degree. Don't think I'm not aware of politics and what the people are doing without. This economy has hit at my house too. But some of the dirty tactics I've heard about is what prompted me to speak up. I am one person who says, get your answers, but do it in an intelligent manner. Not one that is full of inuendos and twisted stories that are supposed to represent the truth. If you go back and read some of these blogs, you will find people that have said one thing then turned around and said something completely different. It is an emotional rollercoaster that goes nowhere

Its apparent emotions are running wild. There have been statements made by those that are complaining that are questionable as well.

I have to wonder why our leaders have not put a stop to this, where are our leaders? Why haven’t they stepped up to the plate? This doesn’t look good for them or us as a City. There are important questions being asked and concerns about the way business is being conducted or not being conducted and yet they are silent.

They are quick to fire, or spend money (negative balance) or overlook discrepancies on a resume, paying contractor more than they should be paid (someone had to sign the checks), waiting to hear from council on questionable relationship with consulting firm, dismissing warrants, money being spent the way it was not intended to be spent. In the real world someone would have to answer to or explain their actions and decisions.

Perhaps they think that getting involved in this nonsence when there is work to be done is just that, nonsence.

This all reminds me of what's going on in Huntsville. There is a small minority that does not want the city of Huntsville to grow and progress. They want it to remain the same. There are stores and restaurants that they will fight to keep out of Huntsville. They are afraid of progress and don't want things to change. Seems the same in Magnolia.
There is talk of the citizens of Magnolia, as if the few people writing here represent the majority of citizens. These are people (once again a few) that have been rejected in some manner by the City of Magnolia and are fighting back by pointing fingers and wondering why the elected officials are not responding. They are working on making Magnolia a better place to live and have no time for the small minority that are spinning tales faster than a spider spins its web